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Daft Shifty · Oct 03, 2008, 07:04 AM // 07:04

wtf is ovaltine... sounds like somewhat rounded piss-water

pumpkin pie · Oct 03, 2008, 07:06 AM // 07:06

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Originally Posted by komma

this is actually a leaked ingame screen of the new r7 gwamm aura, attained by reaching 35 max titles.

from left to right: ranger, paragon, warrior, elementalist.

no you are wrong, from left to right is Monk Elementalist Ranger and unlikable actor who thinks hes cute acting stupid and innocent.

A11Eur0 · Oct 03, 2008, 07:16 AM // 07:16

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Originally Posted by Daft Shifty

wtf is ovaltine... sounds like somewhat rounded piss-water

It's a chocolate vitamin drink. It's actually pretty good, but like Nutella, sounds totally horrid.

And Steve Carell is a decent actor, but tries way too hard to hit the bar that Jim Carrey and Will Farrell set when it comes to physical comedy.

pumpkin pie · Oct 03, 2008, 07:22 AM // 07:22

well, i think he looks more like a psychopatic killer then a comedian.

staying on topic: please make drunken title click and be done with instead of having to stand around looking blurry monitor. thanks.

example: if the beverage gives 2 points once you click you get 2 points etc. ...

Please and thanks

I think I should clarify exactly what i mean, I means when you drink one ale, if that ale give you 2 points towards your drunken title, player should be able to get that 2 points immediately after they drink the ale, but for players who likes to see blurry screen and just basically have fun drinking alcohol beverage in the game the blurry effects and the sitting down and all the nonsense talk are still there. but please give me the points immediately.

thanks.

Betrayer_Of_Wind · Oct 03, 2008, 07:35 AM // 07:35

I hope its just a treasure/wisdom account based update,that 'd be awesome

Onyx Blindbow · Oct 03, 2008, 08:33 AM // 08:33

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Originally Posted by Charlotte the Harlot

every title except LDoA and Survivor until they are maxed should be account wide

>> press here for instant GWAMM <<

Maybe that would make players happy who can't be bothered to spend the time actually achieving something in game

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Originally Posted by elLOCOmutha

Bundle the titles in a package for sale in the online store...you can buy most other things in the store. :P

/thread winner IMO

You forgot to add the Fow armor, chaos gloves, black voltaic spear & torment shield package though

** Now for sale in online store, "I am leet and deserve my e-peen!!! - instant GWAMM + fail armor/gloves/weapons combo Bonus Pack" **

(slightly off topic but IMO no Obsidian armor+chaos glove combo looks good because they do not match at all (exception to this rule is female mes) as for dying a voltaic spear black... lmao)

Back on topic, as I said earlier GWAMM is not a hugely hard title to get, it just requires you to make the decision to go for it and pick the char that you are going to do this with.

If you can't be bothered to do it exactly why should a-net bow-down and gift you the title? I have probably got at least 5 titles + on each of my other chars but when I decided to go for GWAMM, I made a new char and went from there as did a lot of others.

My guildies didn't make the decision at first but then they are now working they way through to get those titles on their main char, so according to some posts, we should belittle a title that some have put the effort in to get to appease the few that truly cannot be bothered to make the effort and all joking aside would most likely buy the instant GWAMM idea in a heartbeat.

cataphract · Oct 03, 2008, 09:19 AM // 09:19

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Originally Posted by A11Eur0

Here's an idea: take a screenshot of your GWAMM character and make a new thread in Screenshot Emporium showing those who achieved GWAMM before the title change, so you can prove that you deserved your prestige, while casual gamers can actually achieve respectable levels of any of the respective title tracks to be on par with the hardcore gamers.

Great idea. I'll need to buy me a set of fail-gloves first. BRB

OT: Greatest post ever.

zwei2stein · Oct 03, 2008, 09:24 AM // 09:24

Changes could be interesting.

Wisdom/Treasurer/Drunk/Sweet/Party changes are unquestionable, they just ought to happen. I am prepared to be disappointed thou.

However it seems that Big Grinds of Factions Faction titles are more in focus. Curious if they will make it so that you can get it by actually playing:

My favourite one would be consumables that would grant you "Hunt" bonus and thus points in any area for any faction.

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Originally Posted by Onyx Blindbow

>> press here for instant GWAMM <<

Maybe that would make players happy who can't be bothered to spend the time actually achieving something in game

funny, that button is not working.

Why? because title being account wide do not make GWAMM easier as you still have to achieve them.

Zaris · Oct 03, 2008, 09:30 AM // 09:30

The longest pve grind title to max is wisdom (after ldoa) which can easily be reduced by making purple items count

seut · Oct 03, 2008, 09:47 AM // 09:47

I have maxed several grind titles and i'm in favor of changing titles that are not tied to storyline progression to account based (treasure hunter, wisdom, drunkard, sweet tooth, party). Having those titles character based just has a negative effect to the enjoyment of the game for players with multiple characters. Same reason PvP titles aren't profession based: it kills the flexibility to bring the right character for the job.
To calm down players who have drunkard/sweet/party maxed on more than one character, Anet could add a functionality to an NPC (Festival Hat Maker?) that let's you transfer the surplus points to another of these "fun" titles in a ratio 2:1.

Unlucky is in serious need of rebalancing. Why does this title have more tiers than lucky in the first place? (cut the top tier? double points from lockpicks breaking in normal mode? count tickets lost not games lost?)

As for Kurzick/Luxon i would like to see the possibilities to gain faction aside from (h)fff get buffed. Keep the current (h)fff options alive, except maybe lower the gold rewards to kill off bots.
Buff the points you can get through shrine blessings and AB (maybe double multiplier kicking in on Saltspray, triple on Grentz/Keys, quadruple on Ancestral/Canyon?).
Anet could add some repeatable "Vanquish this area in the next 2hours" or "Kill these 10Bosses in hardmode in the next hour"-quests with high rewards (time limit to require some skill to complete them). If Anet wants to keep the faction caps, the reward dialogue could have options to donate the points you would get directly to the alliance or get paid out in jade/amber.

For the character based reputation titles that are tied to the storyline, i would like to see no change in the rate you get the points for the first time. But i would like to see an increasing rate of points gained after you have maxed those titles on other characters.
An idea could be work like this:
-until a title is maxed for the first time: normal ratio of points like we have now (thus the "work on this title" isn't cheapened and just as hard to get for everybody)
-after you have maxed the title on one character: all of your other characters get double points (like an endless double point weekend)
-after you have maxed the title twice under this double point effect: triple multiplier for the rest of your chars
-after you max out the title again thrice under the triple effect: 4x points (yeah, that's insane, but then again you must have maxed the title on 6characters already to get to this)
-after you max the title four times under this quadruple effect: Anet bans you from the game until you get written permission to play again from a parent/psychiatrist

Maybe not as radical like above, but the basic idea is to give your followup characters a boost in points.

Titles like cartographer, protector/guardian, skill hunter and vanquisher should remain character based.

seut · Oct 03, 2008, 09:53 AM // 09:53

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Originally Posted by Zaris

The longest pve grind title to max is wisdom (after ldoa) which can easily be reduced by making purple items count

After maxing treasure hunt/lucky you will have done about 2/3 of the wisdom title, the rest is either farming or standing in Bergen Hot Springs international spamming "wtb 7golds = 5k".

The worst grind beside LDoA is Unlucky.

Onyx Blindbow · Oct 03, 2008, 09:57 AM // 09:57

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Why? because title being account wide do not make GWAMM easier as you still have to achieve them.

It's doesn't make GWAMM easier? hmm lets see, the majority of people have more than 1 char (most ppl I know have at least 3 or 4)

This means that they will have faction/rep (call it what you will) already gained on each char, now if they are looking to make ALL titles account wide then surely they must be looking to make the most faction/rep etc.. available in each title track open to all chars (unless they are adding it all together which would be instant titles for a lot of players)

So with this in mind you start a new character to go for GWAMM, first step is to get legendary survivor (because it's now very easy to get) so thats title #1 then add into this char all of the above faction/rep etc... and you have a BIG jumpstart into the KOABD title track (even if you only completed GW:EN with 1 char you will be nearly rank 5 in all reputation tracks)

The only thing you would have to do is complete the missions that you are missing for protector, same for guardian, cap the elite skills that you are missing across the other chars, Vanquish areas that you haven't with other chars (see where this is going?) basically you would be using your "new char" to fill in the blanks to get these titles rather than having to do each one from scratch

The other thing to think about is if they are unlocking things account wide does this mean that any new char you start will also have access to the skills and elite skills capped by your other chars (It would be considered part of the skill hunter title)? huge benefit in pre-searing for LDoA in that alone

By your reckoning (and others thoughts on this subject) it will not be any easier to get GWAMM? despite having a head start from day 1 of a new char? you don't see any of the above as a distinct advantage?

Maybe if they also lessen the grind associated with GW:EN titles, kurzick\luxon, sunspear and lightbringer it would be a good idea.

I do not think there is any easy solution for account wide titles, but the ones that make the most sense to go account wide are probably treasure hunter and wisdom as they tie in with lucky/unlucky too, cannot see any reason why any of the other titles should go account wide tbh.

bj91x · Oct 03, 2008, 10:17 AM // 10:17

One thing I really hope happens is that you can get points for any faction while in any area of the game. For example, let me work on Luxon points while helping a guildy/alliance with a mission in Prophecies.

With everybody just working on their own grind all the time, it's been hard to play with people.

Player 1 - Anybody want to vanquish something in Factions?
Player 2 - No thanks. I'm grinding Lux rep in AB.
Player 3 - No thanks. I'm grinding Norn points in GWEN.
Player 4 - No thanks. I'm grinding Asuran points in GWEN.
Player 5 - No thanks. I'm grinding LB points in NF.

If people can get any rep while doing anything, it'd be so much easier to play with people.

zwei2stein · Oct 03, 2008, 10:19 AM // 10:19

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Originally Posted by Onyx Blindbow

By your reckoning (and others thoughts on this subject) it will not be any easier to get GWAMM? despite having a head start from day 1 of a new char? you don't see any of the above as a distinct advantage?

You don't have any head start. Why? Because you have to count in work you already did too. DUH.

Essentially, it is offloading work to other characters, sure, but it is not removing that work. To get your 0-day KoABD you would have to spend some nontrivial amount of time. Only thing that changes is that you do it before your character is created.

And frankly, by time you have all those 10 000 point titles maxxed, you should already be GWAMM and get zero benefit from rolling new character that might have easier time getting there.

Besides that, there is method of getting 20 maxed titles in less that 15 minutes. (No Kidding & No Lies) Does thins kind of lightning-fast GWAMM disturb you too?

By your logic, GWAMM-candidate would also have to be banned from using stash because it would allow him to jumpstart some titles (gogo stacks of party and sweet stuff items?) Am i correct?

cataphract · Oct 03, 2008, 10:39 AM // 10:39

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Originally Posted by seut

-after you max the title four times under this quadruple effect: Anet bans you from the game until you get written permission to play again from a parent/psychiatrist

Love it.

Onyx Blindbow · Oct 03, 2008, 10:40 AM // 10:40

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

You don't have any head start. Why? Because you have to count in work you already did too. DUH.

Essentially, it is offloading work to other characters, sure, but it is not removing that work.

And frankly, by time you have all those 10 000 point titles maxxed, you should already be GWAMM and get zero benefit from rolling new character that might have easier time getting there.

Besides that, there is method of getting 20 maxed titles in less that 15 minutes. (No Kidding & No Lies) Does thins kind of lightning-fast GWAMM disturb you too?

By your logic, GWAMM-candidate would also have to be banned from using stash because it would allow him to jumpstart some titles (gogo stacks of party and sweet stuff items?) Am i correct?

so, by your argument above you feel that because you have already done the work with other chars (DUH, <- nice phrasing btw) that it is the same as doing all with the 1 char you are chasing GWAMM with? (yet you then admit your offloading the work) but it is not a head start for that char?

you want titles transfered, but if you have maxed them all and got GWAMM on a char then that shouldn't be transfered if you roll a new char?

those 2 arguments contradict themselves totally, according to your logic it is OK to transfer titles but once you have GWAMM then no titles should be transferred to any more new chars?

as for sweets etc.. I have no problem if people have spent all their gold buying the stuff for a new char for "bought titles" I don't see a bought title in the same light as an achieved one (by achieved I mean mission, vanquish, cart etc...)

you can get 20 titles in 15 mins? I presume this is some type of exploit then, which is kind of sad and again belittles the work others have put into their chars to get titles

Maybe you should let others know so they they are then well on their way to insta-GWAMM with as little effort as possible

Vl Vl D · Oct 03, 2008, 10:40 AM // 10:40

Lets celebrate mediocracy.....

Lycan Nibbler · Oct 03, 2008, 12:14 PM // 12:14

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Originally Posted by bj91x

One thing I really hope happens is that you can get points for any faction while in any area of the game. For example, let me work on Luxon points while helping a guildy/alliance with a mission in Prophecies.

With everybody just working on their own grind all the time, it's been hard to play with people.

Player 1 - Anybody want to vanquish something in Factions?
Player 2 - No thanks. I'm grinding Lux rep in AB.
Player 3 - No thanks. I'm grinding Norn points in GWEN.
Player 4 - No thanks. I'm grinding Asuran points in GWEN.
Player 5 - No thanks. I'm grinding LB points in NF.

If people can get any rep while doing anything, it'd be so much easier to play with people.

So, if I understand right, you want to get credit for Luxon faction while also earning say Asuran points or working on protector of Tyria?? Maybe then I can earn LB points while killing Abaddon or HA points while Im doing hero battles..../rolls eyes

I am glad to say that I wouldnt want to play with any of the above players that consider doing what they are a grind - if they dont enjoy it but still do it...well enough said

Lycan Nibbler · Oct 03, 2008, 12:25 PM // 12:25

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Besides that, there is method of getting 20 maxed titles in less that 15 minutes. (No Kidding & No Lies) Does thins kind of lightning-fast GWAMM disturb you too?

So if no kidding no lies, Im sure you wont mind sharing it on this thread then, assuming it is real and/or is not an exploit that you should have reported...

zwei2stein · Oct 03, 2008, 12:26 PM // 12:26

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Originally Posted by Onyx Blindbow

so, by your argument above you feel that because you have already done the work with other chars (DUH, <- nice phrasing btw) that it is the same as doing all with the 1 char you are chasing GWAMM with? (yet you then admit your offloading the work) but it is not a head start for that char?

It is not headstart for you, the player.

Player A: maxes 10k-point titles on character, proceed to create another and eventually gets gwamm on him

Player B: proceed to create character, maxes 10k-point titles on that char and eventually gets gwamm.

Player C: proceed to create character, maxed 10k-point titles on different chat, proceeds to get gwamm on created char.

Difference other than order?

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Originally Posted by Onyx Blindbow

you want titles transfered, but if you have maxed them all and got GWAMM on a char then that shouldn't be transfered if you roll a new char?

Who ever said something about transferring titles?

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Originally Posted by Onyx Blindbow

those 2 arguments contradict themselves totally, according to your logic it is OK to transfer titles but once you have GWAMM then no titles should be transferred to any more new chars?

See above.

And what i said that it is pointless, not that it is not allowable. Difference? Anyone?

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Originally Posted by Onyx Blindbow

as for sweets etc.. I have no problem if people have spent all their gold buying the stuff for a new char for "bought titles" I don't see a bought title in the same light as an achieved one (by achieved I mean mission, vanquish, cart etc...)

So, then what is wrong with making bought titles global?